You famously avoided during the tech boom investing in technology companies. (I'm) curious about what you're like as a user of technology. You know, you play bridge online.
大家都知道你在科技爆炸時代避開投資科技公司。我很好奇身為一個科技使用者你是什麼樣子。你知道，你玩網路橋牌。
Yeah, one of the trick questions that Bill Gates and I use sometimes when we're addressing audiences. He'll say, "Excluding email, which one of us spends more time on the computer?" And the answer is: I spend more time on the computer than Bill does, leaving out the email, because I spend at least twelve hours a week, but weren't just playing bridge on the computer. I do all kinds of other things.
是阿，有時我們當演講時，Bill Gates和我使用的機智問答之一。他會說：「除了email之外，我們誰花比較多時間在電腦上？」而答案是：除了email之外，我比Bill花更多時間在電腦上，因為我一星期花至少十二小時在電腦上，但不只是在電腦上玩橋牌。我做各式各樣其他的事情。
Like what? I mean do you get news that way? I get a lot of news that way. I...I...uh...
像什麼？我的意思是你用電腦看新聞嗎？我用電腦看很多新聞。我...我...啊...
I look up all kinds of things that I used to have to spend a week and right away to get. I mean, it's so useful, in so many ways. I mean, I... If I'm writing the annual report, there will be twenty things I wanna check. You know that I just go through the computer and check them out. But I... Listen, I like going to YouTube. I'll go there and I'll listen to one song, and then I'll see all these suggestions on the side. It's an hour later I'm still listening to suggested songs or something.
我查詢各種各樣以前要花上一星期來查的事務並立即獲得資訊。我意思是，它在很多方面來說都很有用。我意思是，我...如果我在撰寫年度報表，會有二十種想要查的東西。你知道我只要通過電腦查詢。但我...聽著，我喜歡上YouTube。我會去那邊然後我會聽一首歌，然後我會看看所有這些旁邊的推薦影片。一小時後我還在聽推薦歌曲或什麼的。
Alright, so you are on YouTube. What are you watching on there?
好吧，所以你上YouTube。你在那上面都看些什麼？
Well, I watch a lot of things. I mean, somebody tells...sometimes...people tell me there's something kind of interesting to watch. So if there's a political gaffe or something. But if I go there, I may go there to listen to Frank Sinatra sing My Way, you know, and...and there'll be about eight different versions of it probably. And I'll click on that, but then I'll see that, you know, eight other things on the side, Sinatra doing something else lure me. An hour, two hours will go by, and I'm having the time of my life. I like to see Tina Fey do Sarah Palin too. I may...I'll go and type that in. So I...I... You know, YouTube should be charging me a lot of money.
恩，我看很多東西。我意思是，有人說...有時候...人們告訴我有些東西挺有趣的而值得一看。所以如果有個政治醜聞或什麼的。但如果我去那兒...我也許去那聽Frank Sinatra唱My Way，你知道，而且...而且那也許會有大約八種不同的版本。然後我會按那個，但接著我會看那個，你知道，旁邊的另外八個版本，Sinatra做其他事情的影片吸引著我。一小時、兩小時會過去，然後我在享受人生中最快樂的時光。我也喜歡看Tina Fey模仿Sarah Palin。我也許會...我會去把那輸進YouTube。所以我...我...你知道，YouTube應該要收我很多錢。
So do you have an iPod? I do not have an iPod. No. An iPad? I do not have an iPad. No. So, I'm...I'm slowing entering the 20th Century well. Don't...don't push me now.
所以你有iPod嗎？我沒有iPod。沒有。iPad呢？我沒有iPad。沒有。所以，我...我很有風度地、緩慢地進入二十世紀。不要...現在別催我。
As I... As I said before, I know you have a cell phone. Well, yeah. Alexander Graham Bell gave me one of his early ones.
就像我...就像我之前說的，我知道你有隻手機。嗯，是阿。Alexander Graham Bell(電話發明者貝爾)曾給我一台他早期的發明。
Do you...um... Do you ever read books online? Do you use a Kindle or a reading device?
你有...嗯...你曾經在線上看書嗎？你用Kindle或是電子閱讀器嗎？
I prefer... I read things. I read a lot online. And...and...but I would prefer to have a book in my hands, and I prefer a newspaper in my hands. On the other hand, I...I go to newspapers online over time to read them. But...but if you get...just get me a choice, I would...I would still rather have it in my hand. They will...you will come out in ten years, and you'll be visiting me, and I'll be the last guy in the world, reading a real newspaper with a landline phone next to me. And then you'll be interviewing me and say, "What was it like back then?"
我寧願...我讀東西。我在線上閱讀很多。而且...而且...但我寧願手上拿本書，而且我寧願手上有份報紙。換言之，我...假以日時，我去讀線上報紙。但...但如果你給...只要給我選擇，我會...我仍然寧願有一報在手。他們會...你會在十年後出現，你會拜訪我，我會是世界上最後一個，閱讀真正報紙，身邊還有台有線電話機的人。然後你會訪問我，說：「以前的世界像什麼樣子？」
What about social media?
那麼關於社群媒體呢？
Uh, no. I'm not into that. No. Have you ever been on facebook? No.
啊，不。我對那沒興趣。沒有。你有上過facebook嗎？沒有。
And, you are not... I have had some impersonators on there, then yeah.
還有，你不是... 我曾有些模仿者在那上面，那樣算的話，有的。
And Twitter? I haven't done that. A fellow from Clark, Nebraska is co-founder of that I believe, but uh...
還有Twitter呢？我還沒有用過。我相信一位來自Clark市，Nebraska的老兄是那玩意兒的合夥創辦人，但是啊...
it hasn't got to Omaha yet.
它還沒來到Omaha。
- 「除了、略去」- Leave Out
And the answer is: I spend more time on the computer than Bill does, leaving out the email, because I spend at least 12 hours a week, but weren't just playing bridge on the computer.
而答案是：除了email之外，我花比Bill更多時間在電腦上，因為我一星期花至少12小時在電腦上，但不只是在電腦上玩橋牌。 - 「享受快樂時光」- Have The Time Of (One's) Life
An hour, two hours will go by, and I'm having the time of my life.
一小時、兩小時會過去，然後我在享受人生中最快樂的時光。
